West Coast Style ([info]darkain) wrote in [info]nintendo_ds,
2004-12-13 23:20:00
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How to tell a "Mod" is a "Hoax"

Check this out!  multi-lesson guide on hoaxes and the DS!




Lesson one: GBA colors.
The GBA will colorize classic GB games.  Ash becomes red, squirtle (or any other pokemon) becomes blue.
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Lesson two: Goomba Emulator colors
Goomba is a Gameboy emulator for the Gameboy Advance.  Here you can see some various screen shots.  In these screen shots, you can clearly see the yellowness of games.




Lesson three: Goomba on the DS
Goomba on the DS shows up... yellow?
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Lesson four:  Taking apart your DS
To take apart your DS, you have to remove skrews.  One of these is behind the serial number sticker.  I cant seem to find where the sticker was broken at all in the following pictures.  Perhaps it wasn't?
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Lesson five:  Circuit boards
The light green part of the circuit board is called the "trace".  These are the wires that connect the pins together.  If you look closely, you can see how pin 32 on the GBA slot is already grounded.  In fact, it is the ONLY ground connection on the GBA or GB slots.  The yellow line only follows the trace from pin 32 to another ground connection, being a skrew.
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Lesson six:  Integrated Circuits
These are the little chips on the circuit board.  In the picture above, you can clearly see teh "NTR-RFU".  This stands for "Nitro Radio Frequency Unit".  Nitro is the code-name for the Nintendo DS.  RFU is the wireless adapter for the Nintendo DS.  The CPU is actually located behind the DS cart slot, hidden in any of the lik-sang pictures, hence why the CPU wans't used in the hoax.  The RF unit looks like a CPU with a cold-plate on top of it.



So, what have we learned from all of this?
1) dont post hoaxes in my community
2) if you ARE going to post a hoax, at least make it beleive able.
3) dont use emulators that purposfully emulate things incorrectly, such as colors.
4) if you are going to pretend to open your DS, at least break the seal and void your warrantee

i also stated that anyone else posting non-sense in my community would have to be removed.  and because of the amount of krap this guy has gone thru to persuade others that his hoax is real, i may be forced to removed all other posts concerning this matter, to help prevent this infectious disease from spreading elsewhere on the internet.  i'm sorry to all those that have expressed opinions on said posts, but i simply cannot allow this scan to persist in my community.  i am only trying to do the job of a moderator.  the guy posting the nonsense only seems to be interested in selling "kits" and making money off of this scheme.  if it where real, he would provide real evidence, such as pictures of the wiring inside of the unit, and more then just a single game, and possibly a video.  all of this is lacking, plus with the information provided above, it is clear that the entire thing is a hoax. 




i am truely sorry to anyone that may be upset with me for deleting posts... but please do read what is behind the cut before you get angry, and go on a posting and commenting rampage.  i'm only trying to keep things clean around here.  i dont like schemes and scams.  i beleive i have provided enough information to prove the hoax as falsehoods, and if you would like any more proof, please ask.

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[info]utils

December 14 2004, 07:30:55 UTC 7 years ago

Frankly, the only proof I needed to see was that sticker all neat and shiny. I feel a little foolish but this hoax didn't last long at all.

I wanted it to be real ;________;

[info]darkain

December 14 2004, 07:35:21 UTC 7 years ago

truthfully, i wanted it to be real too. i am also a hardware hacker, most recently knowing for my DS WiFi Hacking... i would have loved to have my old games again, considering i cant play my GBA unit anymore. it not only saddens me that this is false, but even more so because of how far these guys are trying to push it, with the faked pictures. :(

[info]gameboyhippo

7 years ago

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[info]darkain

7 years ago

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[info]loveherdeadly

December 14 2004, 07:49:32 UTC 7 years ago

hahah this is excellent thank you

[info]medlir

December 14 2004, 08:04:11 UTC 7 years ago

Disappointing that the mod doesn't work of course, but that was expected, other friends had pointed out the color issue, and the sticker is a pretty good one too. :P

[info]studdlydudlydo

December 14 2004, 08:59:50 UTC 7 years ago

WTF is this? its disgusting.

[info]io_burn

December 14 2004, 09:02:15 UTC 7 years ago

I don't know, must be a furry thing... All these idiots have their 'fursonas' perhaps one of them has to do with disgusting shit.

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7 years ago

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[info]quigoni

December 14 2004, 09:33:35 UTC 7 years ago

You know.. it's bad enough there's alot of stupid PSP fanboys going around scratching DSs so they read "PSP RULES" but doing this to someone who has linked to your site is really uncalled for.

The guy who he got the images from is probably someone who's totally broke and can't afford to find decent hosting.


-Squeek!

[info]egonix

December 14 2004, 19:35:41 UTC 7 years ago

PSP is having all sorts of problems in the east

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/14/1510241&tid=207&tid=212

[info]tssf

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[info]capnasshole

December 14 2004, 09:50:46 UTC 7 years ago

Plain and simply hilarious.

Anyone with half a brain knew that it was actually GoomBA running on the DS, but the fact that you decided to HOTLINK his images to ridicule him, knowing that something like this could happen, and DID, is priceless. Thanks for the laughs.

[info]utils

December 14 2004, 10:09:53 UTC 7 years ago

Re: Plain and simply hilarious.

"Anyone with half a brain..."

That's because you TOLD him to do this. Otherwise, it probably would have never happened.

Also, I think it's funny how you call people stupid for believing this. You're clearly a troll. I'm not going to call a foreigner stupid because they don't know English. The correct term is ignorant. And there's a BIG difference.

The guy preyed on this ignorance and for a few hours we believed him. It's not because we were stupid.

Crack open a dictionary next time you start calling people names. You're clearly ignorant yourself.

[info]pyro01

7 years ago

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[info]jgoreham

December 14 2004, 12:58:36 UTC 7 years ago

Are we still fighting about this? DS modding is so last night you guys. PSP UMD shooting in self-defense is the new "black"! ;)

[info]darkain, I don't agree with your decision to delete those posts, but I do understand why you've done it, and won't argue it with you. Personally, I feel it's part of the community's (short) history, and really, there was some good discussion about the merits of modding in genereal and other such topics.

[info]techni

December 15 2004, 07:42:34 UTC 7 years ago

That was proven false as well

The guy presses eject as he aims it downwards

[info]belmarduk

7 years ago

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[info]techni

7 years ago

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[info]dlocke

December 14 2004, 16:42:29 UTC 7 years ago

I personally cant believe that this is an issue. Why are people so worried to get their GB/GBC games to work on the DS? I didnt buy the DS to play the old games. I bought it for the touchpad, the wirelessness, and the creation of new innovative, and exciting games.

Chances are if you have the old GB/GBC games you have an old gameboy. Enjoy playing it on that. I personally have a GB/GBA SP/DS. And Im fine with playing old games on my old GBA SP. Im happy that they had GBA backwards compatability on the DS. Be glad they had that.

I cant believe that people are up in arms over this and that some people left and started another community just because "they believe" that this worked. I commend you [info] for searching for the truth. Getting all the facts straight and proving this "hoax" wrong.

Even if it was true, Im not about to open up my $150 DS to play old school games.

[info]mr_trine

December 14 2004, 18:31:41 UTC 7 years ago

I cant believe that people are up in arms over this and that some people left and started another community just because "they believe" that this worked. I commend you [info]darkdain for searching for the truth. Getting all the facts straight and proving this "hoax" wrong.

You're an idiot for thinking they left because of this crap. [info]kira_ and other members clearly said several times that they left because of an overall disagreement with how the community was being moderated, it had nothing to do with the fucktards trying to trick everyone considering they even said they had no interest in taking apart a DS. Next time know what the hell you're talking about before you say stupid bullshit.

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[info]mr_trine

7 years ago

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[info]drmustin

December 14 2004, 23:28:49 UTC 7 years ago

i would think let them post it, then get flamed to hell by everyone who knows anything about hacking.

[info]kinra

December 15 2004, 02:35:54 UTC 7 years ago

How about just putting a message at the top of their post saying "THIS IS A HOAX, BUT I'M LEAVING IT UP, THANKS." Followed by a link to this post. Then lock the discussion.

Anyway, I think Darkain absolutely did the right thing.

[info]ripburger

December 15 2004, 05:44:03 UTC 7 years ago

What you guys won't believe is the newest DS mod, PS2 games like San Andreas on the DS. Really, it's 100% real and really easy to do and in no way a hoax. ;)

[info]lucent_beam

December 15 2004, 14:24:50 UTC 7 years ago

you rock

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[info]linus_of_hate

December 15 2004, 10:07:36 UTC 7 years ago

one other thing .. if the DS was that white washed by the flash the top screen would be alittle more unperfect and effected by the flash .. notice how the the sides of the top screen are white with flash .. but somehow the screens isn't reflecting that same white balance and shows little to now sign of the flash that seems to cover the rest of the system .. also the pokemon in play on the top screen complete with a really thick black lines around it seem to be misplaced, really uneven and and even sway alittle bit and have a bit of a wave effect on them .. this is a photo shopped picture all to hell and back ..

emulator capture then paste in for effect

[info]z_saber

December 15 2004, 15:37:13 UTC 7 years ago

Of course, this DS mod crap is all over the internet. Well, a guy at a forum I visit registered the idiot's DS at Nintendo.com.
Click here
Just scroll up a couple posts and look for user named Graft. Fun stuff.

[info]debunkerll38

December 15 2004, 23:34:51 UTC 7 years ago

cool, he should file a police report & report it stolen now.

[info]shucks

December 18 2004, 04:25:21 UTC 7 years ago

2 more bits

http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1103175273

Yeah, apparently somebody replicated it.

[info]darkain

December 20 2004, 04:02:14 UTC 7 years ago

for those of you that want to see the CPU

[info]m2pt5

December 21 2004, 00:32:02 UTC 7 years ago

I wonder if anyone else found it suspicious that he tagged the post "friends comments only".

[info]malevolyn

December 27 2004, 23:31:31 UTC 7 years ago

Just wanted to point out that the sticker could have just been peeled back. That's what I did when I modded my Xbox.

[info]darkain

December 28 2004, 02:14:40 UTC 7 years ago

actually, you dont even need to remove the sticker to take the unit apart. this was revealed later. the lil indent there is just that, an indent and nothing more. this was discovered by reviewing the FCC photos.

[info]brycesk8er

December 29 2004, 06:59:33 UTC 7 years ago

how is it possible???

i must say that is totally cool! how did u get vice city on the ds like that???

[info]kqedequalsvolvo

December 29 2004, 21:46:59 UTC 7 years ago

Re: how is it possible???

Dude, its fake. You're a moron.

[info]brycesk8er

7 years ago

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[info]mad_gouki

January 2 2005, 23:15:03 UTC 7 years ago

what if you cut the gameboy cartridge to fit in the slot? would it work then?

[info]nicwilson

March 21 2005, 05:34:59 UTC 7 years ago

The sticker is also a hoax

Folks,

Enough the the sticker being a reason. There is no screw behind any sticker. I just took mine apart with the proper nintendo tool to compare the photo shots of the motherboard, and none of the screws are behind any sticker.

cheers
NW
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